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BONUS BOTD 7/4/13 "In The Middle Of the Night" A DMK Bonus Production

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David M. Katz


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IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT
A DMK Bonus Production




ISAAC - 13
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JENTZEN - 13
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NATHANIEL - 12
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Nathaniel is your son and Jentzen and Isaac are his best friends.  The boys are seemingly inseparable and, for most of the summer, have spent the night together at one of the three houses.  All three boys are good kids.  You use spanking with Nathaniel if needed.  You have express spanking permission for Jentzen but have never discussed spanking with Isaac's parents.  If the need were to arise, you could probably spank Isaac as his parents do spank him.

The boys are all three at your house tonight.  Since it is summer, you allow the boys to stay up as long as they want for their sleepovers.  The other parents follow this same guideline.  The boys are usually asleep by 2:00 or 3:00 AM but occasionally make an all nighter out of it.  The boys love to be outside and especially enjoy riding skateboards in your driveway.  Again, since it is summer and you have a very understanding neighbor, you let the boys stay outside until midnight. You just require that, after dark, they stay on your property.  Typically the boys skate in the driveway or draw on the driveway with chalk.  Your drive is well lighted by floodlights.  Again, Jentzen's and Isaac's parents have similar guidelines when the sleepover is at their house.

You have never had a great amount of discussion with the boys about coming in at midnight.  They typically come in on their own but occasionally you have to let them know when it is time. The expectation is that once the boys are in they stay in.  This has been discussed with the boys on one occasion but never again as it was never an issue.  You and your spouse will typically go to bed and leave the boys to enjoy their sleepover.  Typically they watch TV, play games or build with Legos.  Your son's room is situated where you and your spouse can close a hall door and the boys still have access to Nathaniel's room, the family room, the kitchen and a bathroom.

This morning at about 4:00 AM you went to the kitchen to get a drink and noticed that there was talking and activity outside.  Nathaniel, Jentzen and Isaac were outside skating in the drive.  You step outside.  The boys do not seem concerned to see you and do greet you but keep on skating.  You ask how long they have been outside and they say about an hour.

What happens next?



Last edited by David M. Katz on Thu Jul 04, 2013 6:40 am; edited 2 times in total


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David M. Katz


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Yes, this is taken from a RL situation. No, the pictures look nothing like the boys in question.


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Kat


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I'd probably remind the boys that they need to come in at midnight and stay in until sometime around 7am and give them a specific warning of what I intend to do if I find them outside in the wee small hours again.

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Kittykat


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My kid would know he wasn't allowed to be outside at that time of night, regardless of the reason. He'd get spanked as would his friends.

AFinch


Sherrif
They're 12. They've stayed on the property, where it's well lit. They obviously have been reasonably quiet and considerate since you only discovered them when you went to get a drink. They haven't been forbidden from being outside. Their reaction to seeing you at 4AM indicates they didn't and don't know they are doing anything wrong.

I'd shoo them back indoors, and have the same talk Kat suggested.

squarecutter


Sherrif
In my dreams to be up and about at those times in my early teens. It also seems pretty loose and while I think the boys have pushed it to the limits I think the boys consider a well lit skating area as part of the home. So I think I will shoo them back inside and suggest they hit the hay. We will discuss Exactly what the rules are tomorrow so they know where they stand

David M. Katz


Marshall
I sent them in and highly suggested going to bed.

Upon their waking we had a clarification of the expectations. Issue closed.


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I'm in the doc & K club

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1strappedboy


Sherrif
I'm in accord with the K Klub and how it was handled in R/L. I might, if I want to insure they understand what my rules are, restate them and make sure they understand expectations.

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John Boy


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A. Are they wearing their helmets? B. I will tell them to come in and ask if they remember the rule. Once we discuss that, I may recommend an early curfew to be inside the next night.

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Jack


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Tell them to come back in, let them know that I consider 'in at midnight' a firm rule, and explain why.

Since the scenario makes it clear that it was never expressly talked about, it means I know that it's not an official rule. If I expect it to be treated as such, I need to make it one. Also, since the boys are 12, things will go better if I explain the reasons for the rule.

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