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BOTD 09-12-2014 No Mean Feet - An Ivor Production

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Skater


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No Mean Feet
An Ivor Production

A friend of yours has sent you this picture which he took earlier that evening of your son, Tristan.

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Tristan may be 16 but he still feels your belt when he steps out of line.

You have made it clear to him in the past that 'anti social behavior' is a spanking offence and for you what he is doing here is clearly that.

Tristan is already up in his room. Are you going up to confront him? At what point (if any) does your belt get drawn through its loops and his pants come down?


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Skater


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do you hear the sound of leather through belt loops?


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David M. Katz


Marshall
OK, someone help an old man out - what exactly is he doing wrong? I am not sure this is anti-socual or just normal teen posture.

Until I get more details I'm not doing a thing.


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LLALVA


Trailboss
The bus, looks empty, I am sure if someone wanted to sit there, he would allow it. He just looks tired, the friends seems to be a busybody... Rolling Eyes

kalico


Sherrif
scratch I'm with Katz, doesn't look like he is doing anything bad ... So nope his booty butt is safe.



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John Boy


Sherrif
Ditto

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Padraig


Trailboss
Apart from putting his shoes on a cushioned seat (sadly quite normal) I can't see real anti social behavior.

Stone Man


Marshall
Looks like a normal, tired, 16 year old boy to me. As long as he'll give me a hug I won't feel the need to whup him. Shocked

It would be more polite if he didn't put his feet up on the seats, but they at least look fairly clean and its not as if he was keeping anyone from sitting.

Maybe a stingoor and words of wisdom will cause him to think better in the future.

AFinch


Sherrif
Seriously? Anti-social behavior?

I'm with Katz.

Jack


Admin
I can't really tell where that picture was set - on a train?

Maybe this is a cultural thing, but that doesn't really seem like anti-social behavior to me (depending on the state of his shoes, I suppose). It doesn't look like the area is crowded, or that he's making people stand. Does Tris know the person who sent me the picture? He certainly doesn't seem worried about someone taking it.

Unless there's something missing, I think I'll just have a talk with Tris about why I consider this anti-social behavior. That would probably have a better effect than dropping a bomb for what seems like a minor faux pas.


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MemoryMan


Sherrif
Its far more antisocial when he sits like that at home ............... with his shoes off No

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Pi Beta


Deputy
This looks like a bus to me. However, quoting from an article about a prosecution in the Daily Telegraph a few years ago -

"Merseyrail is the only rail company to prosecute passengers for putting their feet on seats. About 250 people have been taken to court since the scheme was launched in February.

"A company spokesman could not comment because of the impending court case but said the "feet-up" policy had been widely publicised. Stickers are placed on trains and Tannoy announcements made.

"It is in response to "passenger feedback" under steps to tackle anti-social behaviour. The spokesman also said that the company had spent £32 million refurbishing its fleet."


His shoes don't look as though he's just walked through some dog poo, so I think a quiet warning will suffice.



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ivor


Marshall
Must say I've been quite surprised at the majority of the responses to this BOTD.

Perhaps it reveals a cultural divide as it doesn't seem to be age based. Or maybe it shows that the majority of respondents never travel on public transport and thus have no possible concerns about sitting in a seat on which someone has rested their dirty shoes? To them I'd ask how they'd feel about sitting in their car seat if their son had previously placed his dirty shoes there as illustrated.

(I agree with Pi - it is a bus)

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Kat


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I'm going to agree with Pi on this one.

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Emlyn Morgan


Trailboss
He put his shod feet on a bus seat!

I'm going to whack him.

Sadly feet on bus seats is common in 21st Century Britain, but I have never seen it done anywhere else. Surely not USA?

David M. Katz


Marshall
Emlyn Morgan wrote:  Surely not USA?

Surely, yes.

ivor wrote: Perhaps it reveals a cultural divide as it doesn't seem to be age based. Or maybe it shows that the majority of respondents never travel on public transport and thus have no possible concerns about sitting in a seat on which someone has rested their dirty shoes? To them I'd ask how they'd feel about sitting in their car seat if their son had previously placed his dirty shoes there as illustrated.

I don't know, ivor, as many of the "No Big Deal" respondents are not American.  Use of public transport here varies from city to city but it is true we love our cars here in the USA.

I think the issue is that, although rude, it really doesn't rise to the level of being anti-social, it is just a tired boy not thinking about what he is doing. I would imagine if it were a huge problem then the driver/operator would have asked him to put is feet down.  Also, his shoes are not that dirty.

As far as the feet in my personal car seat?  That is going to vary from family to family but, even at their current ages, I will still get an occasional kid who puts his feet in the seat.  If there is dirt behind we just dust it off.

We Americans are notorious for filthy public transports.  However here in the Metropolitan Nashville area we have an excellent bus network and a commuter train line and they are all kept very clean.  The busses are all typically completely washable - seats and all - so the bus is parked on an incline with the back hatch opened and the thing is hosed down and the water runs out the back.  I know because I have watched the process before.  An employee then wipes the whole thing down.  I don't know how they clean the train but it is always nice too.

Thanks for sharing, ivor.  It is nice to get a glimpse into each other's worlds.  

Just because here are some pics of our public transport:

This is a land port.  It is a combination train station and bus stop.  
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A typical Nashville Metro Transit bus
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One of the commuter trains (Music City STAR)
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Inside one of the commuter trains - see it is clean
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Jack


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ivor wrote:Perhaps it reveals a cultural divide as it doesn't seem to be age based.

Ivor, I think it might be the term 'anti-social' that's causing the problem. It's not a term frequently used here, and when it is, it means the person doesn't like company. Based on the material Pi quoted, it seems obvious there's an entirely different use over there.

Now, if I was a rider on this bus line, and knew about the announcements and postings, I would probably be inclined to react more firmly. I'd certainly make sure he understands that, if he's fined, I'm taking it out of his rear.

PS - You are right about it being a bus - on another look, I can see the wheel well below him. The thing is, that's much fancier than the buses they use in Dallas and Fort Worth for public transit. It looks more like a privately owned Greyhound.


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Jack


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Emlyn Morgan wrote: I have never seen it done anywhere else.  Surely not USA?

Almost the only time we use the bus is when we go into Fort Worth for the Stock Show, and I don't remember ever seeing it there.


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Pi Beta


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Most of the service buses in the UK, not just the long distance coaches, do have plush fabric seats. A few involved in the regular transport of "Dirty industry" workers may have vinyl seats, but they're not common. The fact that it is a service bus can be told by the bell pushes.

Padraig


Trailboss
Even in that not so terribly long ago times when I was his age I wouldn't have dared to put my feet up so openly. On the other hand we rarely had a bus so empty. But nowadays the standards seem to have crumbled, not at least because of the lack of consequences.

And though it doesn't excuse anything modern fabric bus seats aren't like car seats. They withstand almost everything include vomitting and you have to have a sharp knife to do real harm to the seats.

Kids of course know that too.

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