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26 Nov 2014: A Cross-over Special: Shoot First - A Jack and DMK Miniseries

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Jack


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Living outside of town as you do, you took advantage to teach your kids to hunt.  All of them know basic firearm safety, and the older two are pretty good hunters.  It bugs them that they're only allowed to use the guns on official hunting trips or trips to the firing range, so they seek out alternatives.
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They're also pretty good with that, and your oldest son uses his to take care of varmints.
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But all your kids can use one.
Abraham - 8, Andrew - 14, Isaac - 11, Eli - 9

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Because of that, you set some stringent ground rules.  After Andrew and Isaac had a couple of serious (and very noisy) 'talks' with you about not following the guidelines, all the boys took the hint and have been obeying your rules.

That's why it was so shocking to hear broken glass.

It doesn't take a genius to find the pellet your boys use as ammunition, so you go outside, prepared to start whupping butt and taking names.  What you find is Dwayne, the 11-year old son of your new neighbor (well, your boys are there as well).  They were 'just teaching' Dwayne to shot the wrist rocket, and he fired it near the house, and they know that's against the rules, but it's his fault, and please don't give them the extra special whupping your promised if it ever happened again.

So, is this a one dad or two dad problem, Dad?


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Pi Beta


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On this occasion as long as they can decide how to split the cost of the glass between them, I'll put it down to a learning experience.

Next time, however...!

Padraig


Trailboss
I can't answer this BOTD on principle. Sorry.

Iconoclast


Trailboss
Andrew and Issac can repair the window. Any cost can be borne by all 4 boys.

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David M. Katz


Marshall
I agree. They can ALL be responsible for the window repair. Natural consequences may be the better teacher in this instance.


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MemoryMan


Sherrif
Since Dwayne's rogue shot broke the window they must have been "teaching" him round the house so it looks like its whuppin' time again.

If Dwayne doesn't like the idea of having the incident "mentioned" to his dad he can opt to join the party instead.

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ivor


Marshall
I reckon I share Padraig's principles.

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squarecutter


Sherrif
Yep the boyscan make restitution. If anything I am least happy with Andrew as he could have steered Dwayne away from the house so this didn't happen. Dwayne is now on the same warning as the others

mahoover


Cowboy
Since Dwayne is the son of my new neighbor, I am assuming that I don't have spanking privileges, and he isn't familiar with how we do things. So I think I will go with a non-spanking punishment this time. I will confiscate the sling shots and tell the boys that they can't get them back until all 5 of them have written an essay on sling shot safety. The length of the essay will be dependent on the age of the boy, but all of them are to work together to research sling shot accidents on the internet. I will make sure to meet my new neighbors and discuss what happened with them. I will make sure that they understand I am not angry, but want to find out if I should just handle this type of situation in the future.

If Dwayne was the son of a long time neighbor, who had had the same gun safety classes, at least the 3 older boys would be bending over in the barn. And the younger 2 could join them if I determined that they were active participants in teaching Dwayne. If they were just hanging out with the older boys, then they get a pass on the trip to the barn.

db105


Trailboss
I'm going to ask a couple of questions to find out whether Dwayne just shot unexpectedly or whether they were deliberately teaching him there. If it's the latest all boys responsible will be getting whuppings (if I don't have spanking permission for Dwayne I'll just tell his father what happened). If it is the former I'm going to explain sternly that someone who teaches how to use a weapon is responsible for making sure that the safety rules are learned first, but there will be no corporal punishment this time.

In any case, there will be some extra chores and they'll lose some pocket money to help pay for the damages, to teach them that carelessness with weapons have consequences.

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Jack


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db105 wrote:I'm going to explain sternly that someone who teaches how to use a weapon is responsible for making sure that the safety rules are learned first, but there will be no corporal punishment this time.

That's the catch for me. If nothing else, Andrew should have known not to put the sling shot into someone's hands before explaining the safety rules to him. He's lucky it was just a window that was broken.

I am VERY tempted to give him a thorough whipping (unless he can convince me he wasn't involved in this). As it is, I'm calling Dwayne's dad, having a talk with him about what happened, and what will happen to my boys. I think they're losing the sling shots for a while, losing some allowance to make a contribution to the window, doing some extra chores as more contribution, and reviewing all the safety rules with me, before they get them back.


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db105


Trailboss
Jack wrote:
db105 wrote:I'm going to explain sternly that someone who teaches how to use a weapon is responsible for making sure that the safety rules are learned first, but there will be no corporal punishment this time.

That's the catch for me.  If nothing else, Andrew should have known not to put the sling shot into someone's hands before explaining the safety rules to him.  He's lucky it was just a window that was broken.

Yes, that's my thinking to. I would have had a serious talk with the boys before this, to talk about weapons and safety, and that should have come up. However, since in the scenario it was not mentioned I did not want to assume that we had already talked about it.

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Marshall
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John Boy


Sherrif
Ditto Jack.

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