[quote="Jack"]My problem with this is that my kids have all tried wine and beer, and they all know that having any without me around is verbotten.
I'm going to ask my BIL why he reacted the way he did. Maybe he's had to deal with this issue before. If that's true, Ray will be getting the thorough spanking I feel like he really deserves. If there aren't extenuating circumstances, then Raymond will pick a switch, and he'll get (comparatively) mild dose, but still enough for him to be making some noise.
BTW - while it's not complete, I notice this one seems to break down by which side of the pond you're upon.[/quote
Jack its an interesting point. I wonder if it is the emphasis the law in our countries puts on the issue. I think in England the purveyor or seller of alcohol to minors is in trouble. No one under 18 in the UK should be sold a drink by a publican. barman or shop or drunk in areas around the Bar itself. That is not to say that shandy or porter and may be wine even cannot be consumed by minors at meals with families in restaurants or beer gardens, just not the bar area. In France most kids have wine watered down when, as many folk do, the family go out to Sunday lunch together. In the UK the law frowns much more on the delinquent teen behaviour that alcohol can produce as opposed to the mere possession of the stuff. To my knowledge no parents are ever prosecuted for allowing a youngster a bee of or a glass of wine in their own home. An Englishman's home is his castle as we say. Shopkeepers and pubs sell alcohol under license and can most certainly be in trouble if they breech that. May be British parents are, for that reason less bothered than you might be.
In the US a youth up to 21 can be done, or is more likely to be done, as I understand it, merely for being in possession. Am I right? Whether that applies to within the family home as well as in bars on the street I don't know. But it could explain why you might be hotter on it than a British Dad That is not to though that Parents here want 14 year olds helping themselves from the fridge as if it were fruit juice. THAT would bring trouble, especially if it became a habit or they got smashed on it. As a one off something like this will be an occasion for a chat and a bit of boys will be boys rather than total censure or the the hiding of a lifetime