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BOTD 09-30-2015 Dinner With The Boss - A DMK Production

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Skater


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DINNER WITH THE BOSS
A DMK Production

You have a new boss and s/he has invited you and your family over for dinner so you all can get to know each other.

Your thirteen year old son, Carl, is a very picky eater and can often be difficult when it comes time to eat.  Carl complains about having to go to the dinner and says he is concerned he will have to eat something "gross."  

Carl is still subject to spanking.  You tell Carl he needs to go and remind him to be polite and not say anything.  You tell him if he doesn't like something to stay quiet, take a small portion, and that you will get him something after the dinner is over.

You are all seated and the evening has gone well.  Your boss's spouse then brings dinner to the table.  The main course is a tuna casserole (an old family secret recipe.) The one thing Carl despises the most is tuna casserole.  You look at Carl to give him a visual reminder to not say anything and you see:

CARL - 13
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Your boss's spouse sees Carl's reaction too and is obviously hurt and offended.

When you get in the car to go home you tell Carl he is in trouble.  He responds, "Why?  I didn't say anything."

Well?


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Skater


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Freaks and Geeks! Smile

I'm spanking him for sure!


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AFinch


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One of the cutest TV kids ever.

He didn't say anything. And people are entitled to personal food likes and dislikes. Elvis Presley thought peanut butter and banana sandwiches were the epitome of haut cuisine--I think they're gross. But I digress.

Having been a picky eater, Carl (Sam) isn't in any trouble. He did what was asked of him.

True story--I have detested chopped liver since I was an infant. Allegedly, the spot on the ceiling where I spit the chopped liver fed to me at age 7 months would still be there had the building not been torn down. When I was 17, I visited a friend outside of London. The family was very well off, and the mother was, I knew, dying of cancer. She served chopped liver as the appetizer. I choked it down, and I thought I did a good job of covering my real feelings. I finished it, and she turned to me and said: "You know, you didn't have to eat that. I didn't make it. I got it from the deli." I'm pretty sure that's the last time I knowingly at the stuff. I sympathize about the tuna casserole (and feel the same way about it as I do chopped liver). And if I were hosting (and I do that often), I always inquire about food preferences or allergies.

StevieWeeks


Trailboss
Stevie thinks that the boss was very disrespectful serving something like that... especially when he knew there were young children coming for dinner...

Stevie feels for the boy because he is also a picky eater and studiously  avoids invitations were he'd have to eat at other people's houses and all...

He would have a great deal of trouble with tuna casserole himself and would be unable to eat it...

I can't punish a child for my own fault... he's off the hook.

Stevie.



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1strappedboy


Sherrif
I'm a bit torn on this one....

I have some intense food 'dislikes' as well and have had (on many occasions!) to choke down a 'small portion' of some of those foods to 'be polite' so I feel for Carl.  That being said however, I had promised him something to eat that was more to his liking afterward and asked him not to "say anything", which in kid think he 'technically' obeyed my orders-or so he's likely to argue.

Unfortunately for him, there's more than one way of 'talking' and that face says volumes!  Had he kept a straight face and just pushed the food (tuna casserole, ECH!) around a bit I'd probably have left him off the hook but his disrespect and disobedience has earned him at the minimum a thorough chewing out Razz /lecture and a possible spanking depending upon his attitude/level of contrition shown.

David M. Katz


Marshall
I echo the sentiments of Stevie and Kier.


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Kat


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I'm with Kier on this one. I'm sorry our hostess had her feelings hurt, but the damage has already been done. I also agree with Stevie that tuna casserole is a poor choice for this sort of dinner. Not only is it not 'kid friendly', I know many adults who dislike it.

Kat

Jack


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I have to agree with Carl.

I don't like bosses putting their employees family into social situations (in cases like this), because there's really no way it isn't 'forced'.

I do think that Carl deserves a serious lecture about respect and etiquette, but he's 13, and he did do as I instructed. I'll simply apologize to my boss and his spouse, telling them the truth.


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MemoryMan


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I'm with the "K" club.

He's off the hook.  Facial expressions are less easy to control than words.

Anyway, he's not the only one at fault. In our good host's book we always ascertain guest's food allergies and dislikes when an invitation is accepted.

"Is there anything you can't eat?" is a considerate and simple question.

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Jack


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Kat wrote: I also agree with Stevie that tuna casserole is a poor choice for this sort of dinner. Not only is it not 'kid friendly', I know many adults who dislike it.

Kat

I was thinking this exact thing. I certainly wouldn't be eating any more of it than Carl would.  But more, tuna casserole is cheap and smelly - why would you serve that at a dinner party?

Though MM - I think that's actually the guests job (according to Emily Post, I believe). Still, tuna casserole isn't something I would have thought of adding.


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squarecutter


Sherrif
I do so sympathise with Carl some. I think I can keep this to a lecture as Jack suggests and I think I will need to apologize on Carl's behalf and he'll have to make do with a sandwich when we get home if still hungry. (no ways he's being rewarded with a burger or such like after pulling that expression.
You do learn in time to mask your feelings and eat whats in front of you. For some kids its fear of the unknown ad they discover a dish is not that bad. Detest suggests not with Carl and tuna casserole. My pet hate is broad beans. For what its worth I think tuna overrated reminding me of fish paste, a sandwich filling I prefer to avoid.

John Boy


Sherrif
I'll Ditto Kier.

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db105


Trailboss
Was that facial expression instinctive or voluntary? 

In any case, I don't think there'll be any punishment, although I'll have a talk with Carl and tell him that I'm a bit disappointed. He is old enough to be able to attend a dinner and be polite enough to hide his distaste of the food.

Having said that, I shouldn't have taken him. Dinner with my boss? It does not seem a social occasion for children, particularly since I know of Carl's problems with food.

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MemoryMan


Sherrif
Jack wrote:Though MM - I think that's actually the guests job (according to Emily Post, I believe).  Still, tuna casserole isn't something I would have thought of adding.

"Emily Post?"  Don't think she's crossed the pond.  Anyway I looked her up What a Face

Somehow though I think protocol may have changed a bit since 1900.

As a host today I would ensure that I was aware of my guest's needs and preferences; but since I don't run a restaurant I certainly wouldn't expect them to be putting in an order. Rolling Eyes

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ivor


Marshall
One thing is for sure, your boss (or his wife) did not exactly go overboard in providing tuna casserole as a meal for you and your family - unless of course they thought it was the sort of food you'd usually eat and thus be happier with it than a decent steak.

On this occasion Carl gets orff

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Y Lee Coyote


Cowboy
I think Carl was right in the first place about not going. The object of the dinner was for the boss and spouse to get to know employee and spouse and to talk adult matters about community and business in the broad sense. What part could Carl have in that? If the boss has comparably aged kids, then it would have been different but there is a reason for a 'kiddy table' even at family affairs. If this had been a company picnic it would have been a different matter.

I note that it was stated the 'the evening had gone well' which says that dinner is late something else geared to adults and not a kid.

Considering that Carl was stressed, he's doing pretty well.

He gets his choice of where to stop for real food (by his standard) on the way home.

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Jack


Admin
squarecutter wrote:You do learn in time to mask your feelings and eat whats in front of you.

You may. This dad's not eating tuna salad anymore than Carl is.

MemoryMan wrote:
Jack wrote:Though MM - I think that's actually the guests job (according to Emily Post, I believe).  Still, tuna casserole isn't something I would have thought of adding.

"Emily Post?"  Don't think she's crossed the pond.  Anyway I looked her up What a Face

Somehow though I think protocol may have changed a bit since 1900.

Actually, it's the Emily Post Institute now, currently written by her great great (great) granddaughters.


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Zac


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Meals like this can become a social minefield. Everything you do is potentially under scrutiny.  

Carl did everything asked of him. The only thing he wasn't able to do was control his facial expression in reaction to the smell or taste of the tuna casserole. That can be difficult without practice but in time Carl will learn to be as two- or even three-faced and the grown-ups. Probably best not to take Carl to this sort of meal until he has acquired that skill although it is possible that this was an occasion where children were required accessories.

The boss's spouse will have been used to guests ranging from sycophants trying to ingratiate themselves to those desperate to stay on the right side of the boss for the sake of their jobs (this why no one has told the boss that he is passing the port the wrong way - Carl kept quiet about that! ). Consequently it is unlikely any guest has been honest about the cooking for quite a while even if was raw, rotten or cinders.  A considerate host would not so much be offended but mortified at serving a guest something they found unpalatable. This host did not need to put the guests at ease or impress them but expecting to complimented.

Carl gets some "proper food" on the way back home. We all do.



Tuna extra:
Carl behaved better when presented with a tuna dish than this character:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p03n25s3 and here http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p044z3gh

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