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1 7 December 2015 - Strike Three! on Sun Dec 06, 2015 4:48 pm

Jack


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This was the first weekend of the month, so you had Adam. He's 7 years old, and a former foster child of yours. He's back with his parents, but he'd bonded closely with your other boys, and he's now kind of a foster grandson for you. You also had the several sons of your close friends, Curtis and Kim, who were out of town this weekend to celebrate their anniversary. That includes their youngest son, 8-year old Brandon, who is close friends with Adam.

Brandon and Adam, enjoying their weekend

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The weather has been nice this weekend (finally), and the boys have had a good time. Today, however, they had video game fever. You don't allow the younger boys a ton of video time, and they all have to share the game system in the play room. By the time they decided they wanted to play, there was already someone on the game, and someone else in line behind them.

Brandon and Adam talked it over, and asked if they could go bike riding for a while, then come back and play later. You thought that was a great idea, though it was probably a little chilly for them. You made sure they got their hoodies, then they took off.

About twenty minutes later, your phone rings. It's Krista. She's the oldest child of your friends. She's living at home while she takes her college nursing classes. She stayed home while her younger brothers stayed with you. She's calling because she knows you're strict with screen time (so are her parents), so it seemed unusual that you would tell the two boys to go to their house to play their games.

You explain that you didn't and ask her to send the two boys home.

You can understand when a boy tells a fib to get out of trouble, but you're not very accepting of planned deception like this. This isn't just one lie, but two. Not to mention the attempt to circumvent your screen time rules.

Are the boys in trouble? How much, and how will you handle it?


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2 Re: 7 December 2015 - Strike Three! on Sun Dec 06, 2015 5:16 pm

Iconoclast


Trailboss
The Boys asked to go bike riding. They did. The boys did not say if they had an objective in mind, and I didn't ask, so they have done nothing wrong!

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3 Re: 7 December 2015 - Strike Three! on Sun Dec 06, 2015 5:55 pm

AFinch


Sherrif
The boys planned their deception, and used it to circumvent a screen time rule they knew existed. While a politician might take the tack that the kept within the LETTER of the law (or rule), they clearly knew they were violating its spirit.

Yes, they're in trouble. The kind that will result in a very red bottom and a lot of crying.

4 Re: 7 December 2015 - Strike Three! on Sun Dec 06, 2015 8:08 pm

David M. Katz


Marshall
AFinch wrote:The boys planned their deception, and used it to circumvent a screen time rule they knew existed.  While a politician might take the tack that the kept within the LETTER of the law (or rule), they clearly knew they were violating its spirit.

Yes, they're in trouble.  The kind that will result in a very red bottom and a lot of crying.

Yep. Twisted Evil


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5 Re: 7 December 2015 - Strike Three! on Sun Dec 06, 2015 9:52 pm

John Boy


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David M. Katz wrote:
AFinch wrote:The boys planned their deception, and used it to circumvent a screen time rule they knew existed.  While a politician might take the tack that the kept within the LETTER of the law (or rule), they clearly knew they were violating its spirit.

Yes, they're in trouble.  The kind that will result in a very red bottom and a lot of crying.

Yep.  Twisted Evil
Ditto

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6 Re: 7 December 2015 - Strike Three! on Sun Dec 06, 2015 10:05 pm

Kat


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I'm a little confused about how they would be violating screen time rules, as they seem only to have swapped one location for another. Perhaps the idea is they would have still played when they got back to your place, thus doubling their playing time? I'm having trouble seeing this as a big deal. I can't see any reason why I'd have denied permission to play at Brandon's house if they'd asked. Since they didn't, I think not being allowed to play any more will be sufficient.

Kat

7 Re: 7 December 2015 - Strike Three! on Mon Dec 07, 2015 2:49 am

ivor


Marshall
Must admit when I first read this I was very much in agreement with Kier, Katz & JB. However, I then read Kat's response and made an almost complete volte face.

If I had told the that they weren't going to be allowed any video time then they would indeed be deliberately breaking my rules. However, I actually told them they would have to wait before they could play. They have simply found a way to play sooner.

Depending on how one looks at that it can be classed as either clever or devious. I'm in the clever camp and can't see any justification for spanking but they might lose their place in the queue........

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8 Re: 7 December 2015 - Strike Three! on Mon Dec 07, 2015 3:13 am

MemoryMan


Sherrif
They went for their bike ride and suddenly hit on a way to solve their screen congestion problem...??

Would they have proudly announced  on their return that they had done this and already had their screen time for the day?  I doubt it, but since they've already been grassed up I'll never KNOW.

They'll get a lashing all right, but only with my tongue.

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9 Re: 7 December 2015 - Strike Three! on Mon Dec 07, 2015 3:15 am

Jack


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ivor wrote:Depending on how one looks at that it can be classed as either clever or devious. I'm in the clever camp and can't see any justification for spanking but they might lose their place in the queue........

And the fact that they lied to Brandon's big sister about having (your) permission to come over and play doesn't change your mind about which camp?


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10 Re: 7 December 2015 - Strike Three! on Mon Dec 07, 2015 5:25 am

Pi Beta


Deputy
I'm not spanking - just a bit of ear bending about sailing close to the wind!

11 Re: 7 December 2015 - Strike Three! on Mon Dec 07, 2015 5:30 am

ivor


Marshall
Jack wrote:
ivor wrote:Depending on how one looks at that it can be classed as either clever or devious. I'm in the clever camp and can't see any justification for spanking but they might lose their place in the queue........

And the fact that they lied to Brandon's big sister about having (your) permission to come over and play doesn't change your mind about which camp?


They've certainly cut a few corners and maybe told a fib or two, but I still think an ear bending and a stoppage of game time will be more effective than a spanking in this case.

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12 Re: 7 December 2015 - Strike Three! on Mon Dec 07, 2015 7:26 am

Kat


Editor Extraordinaire
Jack wrote:And the fact that they lied to Brandon's big sister about having (your) permission to come over and play doesn't change your mind about which camp?

It just makes me glad that my big sister would never have made that call. Laughing Probably why I'm still close to her.

Kat

13 Re: 7 December 2015 - Strike Three! on Mon Dec 07, 2015 8:24 am

db105


Trailboss
Once again I ask myself: were they willfully breaking the rules? In this case the answer is yes: they lied twice (or once, if we caritatively say that maybe they did intend to ride their bikes and later changed their minds) to sneakily get around the video game restrictions. If they had just wanted to avoid having to wait they should have asked and they would not be in trouble, but that doesn't seem to be the case here. I'll question them a bit to make sure their intention was not pure and clean.

I do have sympathy for them, because for young boys it is very difficult to understand the need for rules such as this one: they like playing video games and apparently they do not hurt anyone by doing so, so why restrict it? However, this is disobedience and dishonesty, and they will get a spanking.

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14 Re: 7 December 2015 - Strike Three! on Mon Dec 07, 2015 10:36 am

MemoryMan


Sherrif
Jack wrote:And the fact that they lied to Brandon's big sister about having (your) permission to come over and play doesn't change your mind about which camp?

Would you really expect a small boy to be truthful with his bossy big sister? (Especially if she's a known grass) Shocked

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15 Re: 7 December 2015 - Strike Three! on Mon Dec 07, 2015 2:38 pm

Jack


Admin
I believe I would spank here, because it seems like there was deliberate deceit involved.

This was not based on a real situation. However, if it had been, there would definitely be spankings - not because of the gaming, but because the Malone boys were supposed to stay here, not hang out at their house while their parents were gone, so it would really have been a totally different case.


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16 Re: 7 December 2015 - Strike Three! on Mon Dec 07, 2015 3:57 pm

MemoryMan


Sherrif
Jack wrote:I believe I would spank here, because it seems like there was deliberate deceit involved.

"SEEMS like?"  I wouldn't spank when there is an element of doubt.

They MAY have had a sudden  brilliant idea whilst they were passing he house and been intending to tell you they'd had their screen time on their return.  Unlikely - but..........?

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17 Re: 7 December 2015 - Strike Three! on Mon Dec 07, 2015 5:29 pm

Skater


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I'm spanking them too.. the look like they would benefit from a red butt!


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