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BOTD 04-05-2016 - Hot August Night - An Ivor Production

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Skater


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Hot August Night - An Ivor Production

It's the 1970s and it's summer and it is hot. You have taken your two sons - 14 year old Tony and 9 year old Henry camping. On the site where you have stopped there are certain restrictions on activities.

This morning you have left the two boys, who get on well together despite their age difference, to go off and enjoy themselves while you have gone into the nearby town to get some supplies. Actually you have run out of cigarettes but you don't want to admit that to them and while in the shop you picked up a souvenir paddle.......

When you return they are not immediately in evidence so you go for a walk around and eventually see:



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When you call them over and tell them they are both going to get spanked for disobeying the notice Tony points out that he wasn't even in the water and Henry wasn't actually swimming. On further questioning he does admit that had you arrived a few minutes later you would have found them both skinny dipping.

Do they get a pass or will you test out your new paddle?


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Skater


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silly question.. it's the 70s.. I'm using my paddle!


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AFinch


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It depends on why it's marked "No Swimming". Unless there's a safety issue, they're getting a pass.

Kat


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I'll go along with Kier on this one.

Kat

Eldo


Cowboy
Switching.

David M. Katz


Marshall
Ditto cat who is ditto Kier.


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MemoryMan


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AFinch wrote:It depends on why it's marked "No Swimming".  Unless there's a safety issue, they're getting a pass.

Ditto .............. but if there is a safety issue their resultant paddling, especially for Tony, will be no novelty.

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ivor


Marshall
I'm intrigued that people are qualifying their response based on the reason for the notice being there. Would the response be similar on seeing a 'No Entry' sign?

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Pi Beta


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I certainly need to test out the paddle so on the basis of no time like the present, I'll be testing it with some vigour on Tony but will stick with using my hand on Henry since I will assume, unless otherwise corrected, that Tony was nominally in charge and responsible for his little brother.

Kat


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ivor wrote:I'm intrigued that people are qualifying their response based on the reason for the notice being there. Would the response be similar on seeing a 'No Entry' sign?

I'll say probably. 'No Entry' seems to me much a much stronger message, and one that doesn't allow for any maneuvering the way 'No Swimming' does. After all, the boys are not technically swimming; but if a sign says 'No Entry', then they have either entered or not. They *are* escaping on a technicality this time, mainly because I don't want to spoil our outing, and because I think another warning will prevent a repeat.

Kat

ivor


Marshall
Kat wrote:
ivor wrote:I'm intrigued that people are qualifying their response based on the reason for the notice being there. Would the response be similar on seeing a 'No Entry' sign?

I'll say probably. 'No Entry' seems to me much a much stronger message, and one that doesn't allow for any maneuvering the way 'No Swimming' does. After all, the boys are not technically swimming; but if a sign says 'No Entry', then they have either entered or not. They *are* escaping on a technicality this time, mainly because I don't want to spoil our outing, and because I think another warning will prevent a repeat.

Kat

I tend to agree, especially as at this point they aren't actually swimming. However, I thought I'd just test the water Smile

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Y Lee Coyote


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The sign allows "no swimming".  It does not prohibit swimming.

Obviously, someone has surveyed the area and determined that this is a good place to swim and kindly allowed non-swimmers to remain.

A sign that states "No entry" is clearly a prohibition and thus an entirely different matter.

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David M. Katz


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Y Lee Coyote wrote:The sign allows "no swimming".  It does not prohibit swimming.


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squarecutter


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I m giving each one good swat each. on the spot, moderated for age in Henrys case since there was disobedience of local rules there. The point will be made

MemoryMan


Sherrif
ivor wrote:I'm intrigued that people are qualifying their response based on the reason for the notice being there. Would the response be similar on seeing a 'No Entry' sign?

It is not an official sign.  It bears no reference as to the 'authority' erecting it and it probably has no legal significance.

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Y Lee Coyote


Cowboy
David M. Katz wrote: scratch
The sign clearly states that no swimming is allowed which mean that one is allowed to watch the more adventurous frolic in the water.  In other words, voyeurs are allowed.

It seems to me that there is some very attractive scenery right now.  Smile

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Padraig


Trailboss
A campsite with a pond/river where swimming is not allowed? I should leave immediately and look for another, more kid friendly place. I didn't forbid them to go near/into the water and they weren't (yet) swimming so no punishment.

Jack


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I bought the paddle for a reason, and I'm going to use it. It will probably be just a medium swat for each of them. I say probably, because I want to know why there is 'no swimming'. Considering this is the 70s, is there sewage being released upstream? Has their been an epidemic of cottonmouths this summer? Unless we know it's not a safety issue, then I'm not very happy with them.


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Iconoclast


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Y Lee Coyote wrote:The sign allows "no swimming".  It does not prohibit swimming.

Obviously, someone has surveyed the area and determined that this is a good place to swim and kindly allowed non-swimmers to remain.

A sign that states "No entry" is clearly a prohibition and thus an entirely different matter.

Y.

You stole my thought before I even had a chance to think it!

The sign clearly says that "no swimming" is allowed!

The boys are doing nothing wrong, of coarse no punishment!

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