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1 Halloween BOTD '16 - Clowning Around on Sun Oct 30, 2016 4:02 pm

Jack


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Your son, 11-year old Chad, had his heart set on going as an evil clown for Halloween this year. He saved some money to buy the costume he wanted (though you still paid for most of it). He was very excited. Then, just a couple of days before Halloween, you received a note from school that clown costumes weren't going to be allowed. You called the principal, and he announced that, with the recent 'clown hysteria' that's been going around, he felt it would be better for the kids to avoid that costume. Not just to keep some of the younger kids from being scared, but especially because there have been reports of people in clown costumes being attacked.

You explained things to Chad, even going online to show him that this was widespread, and that people in clown costumes had been attacked and hurt.


Chad was not happy
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Chad argued with you. He remained unhappy even when you gave back his share of the money. You pointed out that the costume was really too big for him now, so he could save it for next year. You helped him come up with other ideas. Finally, he seemed to settle down, the two of you came up with a fairly simple, but fun 'pumpkinhead' costume for him (that would be better for the hot weather you're having), and you relaxed.

Today is Halloween. You're setting everything up, when you hear a loud thud from Chad's room. You go back there to find he's pried the screen off his window and is handing his clown costume out to his best friend, David.

Is Chad still going trick-or-treating? Will he be going as a firefly? Do you need to call David's parents?


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2 Re: Halloween BOTD '16 - Clowning Around on Sun Oct 30, 2016 4:21 pm

John Boy


Sherrif
Costume is now mine after all I helped pay for it. Then I will address the sneaking the costume out the window, one can only assume two things. One He is lending it to his friend or two he is trying to sneak it so he can get into it later. Either way I think his bottom is going to be toast then he can go to the Halloween events.

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3 Re: Halloween BOTD '16 - Clowning Around on Sun Oct 30, 2016 4:22 pm

StevieWeeks


Trailboss
This cartoon is relevant and all... and there's no poo content, either...

http://www.fowllanguagecomics.com/comic/uncomfortable-costumes/

Stevie...

4 Re: Halloween BOTD '16 - Clowning Around on Sun Oct 30, 2016 4:42 pm

David M. Katz


Marshall
As far as the costume being handed off, I need more information. Is he loaning it to David? Is David going to sneak the costume in for Chad? Is David going to throw it away for Chad? Other reason?

Once I know the why then I can deal with it.

I am concerned about the screen. Can it be repaired? Does it snap right back on? Will it need to be totally replaced? Why did Chad not use the front door?

I would think Chad has earned himself a spanking for the damaged screen but it will depend on just how much damage is done.


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5 Re: Halloween BOTD '16 - Clowning Around on Sun Oct 30, 2016 6:16 pm

AFinch


Sherrif
Screens are usually made to be removable and to snap back into place. I'm not especially concerned about that, unless it appears damaged when I come into the room.

I am concerned about the subterfuge. Like David, I need more information. My reading is that it is unlikely he's giving the costume to David for disposal, and equally unlikely that he's "loaning it to him" for use tonight, which only leaves one other, proscribed, reason for it being handed out the window. But I'll ask.

If my take is correct, i.e. Chad admits he was planning to change into the other costume once he left the house, he's done. No trick or treating, and a pretty major spanking on top of that. We've discussed this matter, and the reasons for the decision. "Evil clowns" have been stabbed and otherwise attacked in the streets during this "clown hysteria" which I, frankly, don't understand. Nonetheless, it's direct, dangerous, disrespectful disobedience, and that buys serious punishment. Better he should cry now than both of us should at a hospital.

6 Re: Halloween BOTD '16 - Clowning Around on Sun Oct 30, 2016 9:04 pm

Kat


Editor Extraordinaire
I'm a little confused. As I understand it, the school proscribed clown costumes, and I extended the ban to trick-or-treating? Frankly, I think it's an overreaction. I don't think there's a chance in hell of an 11-year-old who's among other trick-or-treaters, and with a number of adults also nearby, being in danger of attack on the basis of his costume. I might think twice if I, as an adult, had planned to dress as a clown, but even someone as short as I am is bigger than the typical 11-year-old. Since I did apparently tell him he can't wear the costume, I'll enforce that. I'm going to be sympathetic, however, and not add any punishment beyond his disappointment.

Kat

7 Re: Halloween BOTD '16 - Clowning Around on Mon Oct 31, 2016 3:18 am

ivor


Marshall
I'm with Kat as the school does seem to be going overboard in banning kids from wearing clown outfits. That may though be because there are much older kids on the same campus so it is easier to make a total ban rather than try and be age selective.

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8 Re: Halloween BOTD '16 - Clowning Around on Mon Oct 31, 2016 6:37 am

AFinch


Sherrif
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/some-florida-residents-plan-armed-trick-or-treating-halloween-creepy-clown-threats/

This sort of insanity is the reason I would agree that, at least for this year, dressing as a clown is a bad idea.

The more important question is how did we get to this point from this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NVTFnmav4s

9 Re: Halloween BOTD '16 - Clowning Around on Mon Oct 31, 2016 6:56 am

ivor


Marshall
AFinch wrote:http://www.cbsnews.com/news/some-florida-residents-plan-armed-trick-or-treating-halloween-creepy-clown-threats/

This sort of insanity is the reason I would agree that, at least for this year, dressing as a clown is a bad idea.

The more important question is how did we get to this point from this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NVTFnmav4s

If people are that terrified then the sensible answer would be for them not to take their kids out trick or treating rather than to go armed with a gun. However, insanity rules. What a Face

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10 Re: Halloween BOTD '16 - Clowning Around on Mon Oct 31, 2016 7:21 am

Kat


Editor Extraordinaire
All I have to say is, Thank God for Florida! Texas would look so much more insane without Florida for comparison purposes. Ivor is right: people who are so chickenshit as to need a gun to escort their kids while trick-or-treating should keep the kids home or take them to one of those fall carnivals the anti-Halloween nutters sponsor.

For years we've had the poisoned candy or razor blade in fruit hysteria despite the lack of any credible evidence any such thing ever happened. That particular hysteria seems to peg back to two incidents: a woman in NY (I think), who handed out clearly labelled stuff as a joke and warned those she gave it to what it was; and the notorious "Candy Man" in Texas, who poisoned his own children for insurance money. Then came the religious folks, who seem to think Satan might literally be lurking behind a tree. I wonder what the next hysteria will be.

I don't really have that big an issue with the school imposing the ban. They open a huge can of worms by allowing costumes at all. For trick-or-treating, though, this neighborhood at least doesn't seem to be suffering clown hysteria.

Kat

11 Re: Halloween BOTD '16 - Clowning Around on Mon Oct 31, 2016 9:40 am

StevieWeeks


Trailboss
There actually was an incident of mass poisoning due to Halloween candy in 1950... due to the overuse of orange dye # 1 in popcorn balls ans certain candies...

This was not deliberate, of course, and the dye was legal at the time, but scores of children were made severely ill in this incident and all...

The dye was outlawed in 1956...

Useless trivia 101...

Stevie

12 Re: Halloween BOTD '16 - Clowning Around on Mon Oct 31, 2016 3:58 pm

Jack


Admin
Kat - on the poisoned candy hysteria.

I have no idea about the person you cite in NY.  The second one I'm aware of is someone who tried to claim someone had put drugs in their kids Halloween candy, when the kid had an overdose.  It turns out he'd gotten in his uncle's stash, and they were trying to keep the uncle from going to jail.




For myself, I would pull Chad in by the ear, then read him the riot act.  He may not agree with my decision, but he knows why I made it, and he doesn't have the right to circumvent it.  I can't think of anything short of significant illegal behavior that would persuade me to keep a kid from trick-or-treating, but I'm going to let him know I'm tempted to wear him out for his disobedience.  In the end, I think I'm going to let his disappointment persuade me to let him off this time.




Oh, and this one was based on real life to an extent. My tweens were planning to go as Monster Clowns. Several of the parents involved felt it might not be a good idea, though we haven't had clown hysteria around here. My kids weren't as into the idea as Chad was, and we quickly shifted to uniformed zombies of various stripes, and the kids had a lot of fun deciding what they were going to wear.


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13 Re: Halloween BOTD '16 - Clowning Around on Mon Oct 31, 2016 8:20 pm

StevieWeeks


Trailboss
Chad can wear this costume that I just happen to have stashed away in my closet instead:

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