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BOTD 04-11-2017 Listen to Your Dad! - An 18 Smacked Production

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Skater

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Listen to Your Dad!
An 18Smacked Production




You come home from a hard day's work at the salt mines to find Jesse, your 14 year-old son, totally lost in his music as he listens through the new headphones he got a couple of weeks ago. You were concerned about him playing them so loud that he would hurt his hearing, and he promised to keep things at a safe level. Yet, this is the third time that he had them so loud that he never heard you coming home, or even into the room. He was almost driven into shock when you put your hand on his shoulder so you could talk to him, and then, when he removed the headphones from his head, the noise was blasting at you.

Jesse - 14
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You do not want to seem out-of-date to Jesse, but you don't want him to be prematurely deaf, either. Is there a way that you can reasonably set limits and enforce them, too?

What should the rules- and penalties for breaking those rules be- regarding those headphones?


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David M. Katz

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I will impound the headphones for the next two days. That should serve as a reminder to use them safely.


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Jack

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I'm going to listen to the headphones myself and find a maximum setting. If he goes above that, we'll decide on a penalty - probably swats the first time and impound them the second time.


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AFinch

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I'm inclined to agree with Jack and Dave. I'm also going to point out, probably have Jesse look it up himself, so it doesn't sound like a parental legend, that listening to music too loudly will cause hearing damage, and that damage is PERMANENT.

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This has the potential to become a source of endless disagreement about whether a particular sound is too loud, with consequent resentment and anger.  To remove all that subjectivity it appears I am going to have to spring for a decibel meter.  I think there is a usable model for $17 from Walmart that measures noise (i.e. Jesse's music) in the range of 30 to 130 dB.

So when I suspect that his noise music might be too loud (like when he can't hear me talking to him), I will pull a headphone back from his ear, slip in the sound probe, and read the meter.  Every time it reaches a specific value that I have determined is "too loud" he will get a paddle lick, and every 5 db above that threshold is good for yet another lick.

So it is up to Jesse to turn the volume down quickly whenever some loud music starts playing in order to protect his hearing - and his bottom.

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Kat

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I'm in agreement with everyone else. Letting the kid damage his hearing would be irresponsible parenting.

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Eldo

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What's that? Leather paddle? If you insist, boy. Very Happy

ivor

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I'll just have to turn a deaf ear to his pleas not to be paddled. Smile

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MemoryMan

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Since I won't be around for 90%+ of the time he'll be listening there is little I can do beyond education.

Nagging, punishing or impounding said phones is likely to be counterproductive.

A decibel meter might be a good idea so that he can experience and come to be able to recognise the level of sound experts agree that, if sustained, will cause permanent damage to his hearing.

Then I'll cross my fingers because at the end of the day it has to be up to him

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Jack

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One of the reasons I really hate having to deal with something like this is that I love 70s prog rock bands like Supertramp and Pink Floyd. Both of them are notorious for having music that will be very quiet, but then suddenly it will be this loud!.

I don't know if a lot of currently pop music is like that, but I can empathize.

The problem is, I still remember Ozzie Osborn talking to one of his kids and saying, "You'll have to speak up. Remember, Daddy makes his living standing in front of 10,000 amp speakers."


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kalico

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Dittoing jack and Katz




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StevieWeeks

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Stevie does not think that Jesse will pay much attention to him on this, and it's not something that can easily be enforced unless you actually confiscate his headphones and refuse to allow him to use them in future...

While Stevie is writing this, he has an annoying and permanent ringing in his ears that will never go away due to forty years exposure to industrial noise... even with the constant use of approved hearing protection over those years...

Explaining this to a fourteen year old is likely to be futile - it won't happen to me - however, I shall patiently explain yet again what the inevitable consequences of long term exposure to excessive noise will be...

I might actually confiscate his headphones for a period of time to ram my point home, but I'm not real hopeful and all...

Stevie

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Agree with Jack, even though this would be a tad hypocritical on my part. I like my earphones a lot, so I sympathize, kid.

squarecutter

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I am sure there will be plenty on the internet about this and including comments from old rockers about how their hearing was affected. I suggest he starts with The Who. I think that will have more effect than any lectures. And I agree with Jack, I enjoyed some of those 70s rock bands too, Supertramp a particular favourite(guess its our age!) so would feel a bit of a hypocrite. If there is a way of controlling volume consistently then fine, I might just remove th phones for a day if it is breached and save paddling for the teen attitude that might incur

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