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BOTD 5/14/17 "The Fickle Flying Finger of Fate" A Stevie Production

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David M. Katz

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The Fickle Flying Finger of Fate...
A Stevie Production

You have two sons, Jose, 15, and Miguel, 5...

Miguel came along later in life as a very welcome gift... you'd been told that no more children were possible after Jose's birth.

The two boys get along well... Miguel worships his older brother, while Jose has always loved and protected his little sibling. You and your spouse have been always profoundly grateful that the older boy did not resent the birth of his baby brother and have responded by trying very hard not to rock the boat in this area.


Jose, 15 - in his favourite environment, the gymnasium...
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Last week, however, you had to remonstrate with Jose because he was teaching his little brother how to give the one - fingered salute... the teen thought it was highly amusing to see the tot do this, although you most certainly did not.

You carefully explained to little Miguel that the gesture was very, very rude and that any use of it in an inappropriate situation might result in a trip over your knee.

Today you got a call from Miguel's school - which has been taking class photos over the last couple of days - regarding the proof of your son's solo picture, of which they refuse to print copies (it is a fairly conservative Catholic school).


Miguel, 5, in his kindergarten graduation photograph...
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Miguel's grandparents on both sides have been promised copies of his graduation photo and are eagerly eagerly awaiting them... you will have to pay for a special photography session to retake the picture.

Upon discussion with the younger boy, he slips up and accidentally incriminates his older brother, who reluctantly admits making the suggestion to 'photo - bomb' the picture in the first place.

You live in a southern state in which corporal punishment using an implement is very much on the table for both youngsters...


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db105

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An age appropriate spanking for Miguel, who had been warned about that gesture. I will have Jose witness his little brother's spanking, so that he will see that his jokes have consequences that are not funny.

Then I will inform Jose that I'll be setting aside half of his pocket money for a period of time to help pay for the special photography session.

If with these two measures I judge Jose has been punished sufficiently I'll leave it at that, particularly if he feels very bad at his brother's spanking. If not, I would add a paddling.

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db105 wrote:An age appropriate spanking for Miguel, who had been warned about that gesture. I will have Jose witness his little brother's spanking, so that he will see that his jokes have consequences that are not funny.

Then I will inform Jose that I'll be setting aside half of his pocket money for a period of time to help pay for the special photography session.

If with these two measures I judge Jose has been punished sufficiently I'll leave it at that, particularly if he feels very bad at his brother's spanking. If not, I would add a paddling.


I am in line with this plan.

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Jack

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I disagree, because I consider Jose to be much more culpable. While Miguel should know who is in charge, why should he feel his beloved and respected big brother would steer him wrong.

I'm not much for spanking 5 year olds, but this is direct disobedience. After Jose has watched Miguel's spanking, I'll inform him he'll be losing is allowance for a couple of weeks to help pay for the special photo session, but I'll also be asking him whether he thinks his behavior was mature enough to earn the paddle, or if he deserves to go over my lap for an old-fashioned session with the brush.

I hope he'll get the idea of how unhappy I am with his idea of humor.


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Padraig

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I agree with all above regarding the boys, but - really, any photographer who isn't able to retouch that minor problem isn't worth his money...

Kat

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Even at five, Miguel knew he was disobeying. He's receiving the age-appropriate spanking he was promised.

Jose should have known in the first place that teaching his little brother rude gestures was wrong. For him to put Miguel up to doing this during a picture is very close to direct disobedience. He is getting an age-appropriate dose of cp also.

Each can contribute to the fee for a re-do of the photo. I won't take money from their allowance for more than a couple of weeks, though. At their respective ages, that would be unfair.

I agree with Padraig that the picture should be fixable without a re-do.

Kat

David M. Katz

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I am going to DITTO cat


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MemoryMan

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I don't see the problem.  There is an "unfortunate" arrangement of the fingers but no overt gesture.  The photo is not a studio portrait and the background is unprofessional.  I can easily take at least as good a photo myself with my phone or alternatively crop the original off by the knuckle.

Regarding the intention?  I will be having a talk with both boys in order to  get to the "bottom(s)" of the matter.

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ivor

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I agree that the photo could easily be photoshopped to edit out the problem digit and as MM says it isn't that overt a gesture anyway.

I'm not into spanking 5 year olds anyway. Big brother though is another matter for putting him up to it.

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Y Lee Coyote

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There are several things to consider about this.  Most important is that little Miguel need to learn that he can not always listen to his big brother but without destroying that wonderful relationship they have.  

Second, surely if this is anywhere near the current time, the photographer should have checked the immediate video ‘proof’ and retaken it.  If before digital, then a little dark room work could solve the issue.

This is an old problem and was the subject of Leave It To Beaver -- “The School Picture” in 1961.  The photographer was able to deal with it saving the day.  This can be seen in http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4u1mv6_leave-it-to-beaver-s-4-e-30-the-school-picture_tv   with the problem shown at 9:13 and the solution at 24:30.

Jose is in trouble.  He needs to learn that as a ‘god’ he needs to be far more responsible.

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Emlyn Morgan

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I'm going to whack them!

squarecutter

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I agree with Kat. Age appropriate spankings are much in order. Miguel needs to know a Daddy order counts more than a big brother suggestion. His disobedience get him a spank.

Jose knows and understands and will hope help guide Miguel to follow the rules in future, not the opposite.

Emlyn Morgan

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I notice that Jose's legs have been recently caught by a box jellyfish! They're getting everywhere.

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