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BOTD 8/13/17 "Two For Tony?" A DMK Production

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1 BOTD 8/13/17 "Two For Tony?" A DMK Production on Sat Aug 12, 2017 4:52 pm

David M. Katz

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TWO FOR TONY?
A DMK Production

You have an eleven year-old son, Anthony.

ANTHONY (On a better day than today.)
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This morning Tony earned a very thorough session with the brush for a repeated chore issue and for lying about it.  After the spanking, you considered the matter closed and both you and Tony went on with your day.

It is now the afternoon and you are driving your son home from the local book store.  It isn't a pleasure trip as you got a call from the owner of the book store (a personal friend of yours) asking you to come and take Anthony home.  It seems Anthony saw a book he wanted but was a tad short on cash and so he decided to take the time-honored five finger discount and tried walking out without paying.  Tony was caught leaving without paying and you were called.

Tony looks over to you from the passenger seat and asks you not to spank him.  Tony says it isn't a big deal now since the book got returned to the shop.  Your son also adds in that, if you spank him, it will be two in one day and that would be unfair.  Spanking is the go to consequence in your family and it works will with Tony.

Does Tony get two today?


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AFinch

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Tony knew the consequences, but still tried to steal the book. What happened earlier has no bearing on now, assuming that what he got this morning was a spanking, and not a beating that left him bruised.

Knowing that's the case, it's too bad. He's getting spanked. Maybe next time he'll make better choices.

18Smacked

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I agree with Kier, but I also think that I need to start considering if spanking is effective with this boy. Not all kids respond the same way to the same punishments. If this is not working, what else should I use instead or perhaps in addition to the spanking? And, is the stealing a one-off event or is this a frequently repeated behavior of Tony’s and something that warrants having a professional evaluate? Maybe what I have been doing is not what Tony responds to best. But, frankly, what Tony says about the stealing not being a big deal since the book was returned demonstrates that he certainly does not understand the seriousness of what he attempted.

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Adric

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David M. Katz wrote:Tony says it isn't a big deal now since the book got returned to the shop.  Your son also adds in that, if you spank him, it will be two in one day and that would be unfair. ...

Does Tony get two today?

Stealing is a big deal, and it doesn't matter that he didn't get away with it.

It makes no difference what happened to him earlier in the day.  Tony gets another spanking!

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Kat

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18Smacked makes a good point. Tony is now grounded for the stealing, and the two of us are going to have a very long talk about why intent matters.

Kat

MemoryMan

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........."spanking still works with Tony"...........

Justice shouts YES but having regard to the envisaged severity humanity says no, and he's grounded to his room for the rest of the day..

Before I leave for work in the morning I'll be waking him with the message. "This isn't a big deal Tony - its only a leathering."

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Jack

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In RL, what would bother me most is that Tony wanted a book, and he didn't just call me and ask to borrow some money. The idea of me not getting a book for my kids would be pretty shocking.

In this scenario, I'm going to go with what's written and assume that spanking does still work. While it might be time to reevaluate that, it sounds like two completely different incidents that just happen to occur close to each other.

As for 'no big deal', depending on his attitude and how he sounds, I'd imagine that's just whistling past the graveyard. I think he knows it's a big deal, suspects what's going to happen when we get home, and is just trying to find any argument to distract me or change my mind.

I'll remind him that committing a crime is still committing a crime, even if you're caught before fleeing the scene. We're very lucky that the store owner called me instead of the police. Even just one paperback book is a class C misdemeanor which can cost hundreds of dollars and much more in lost hours.

When we get home, he's picking a switch.


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ivor

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The theft appears to be a 'one off' whereas the failure to do the chores is a repeated action.

I am thus of the view that rather than spanking for the theft the loss of something he considers important be it his hone, his computer or just being grounded (and for a significant period) may be the most effective action.

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Y Lee Coyote

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Tony is quite right.  Now is not the time for another spanking on his sore bottom but he is very wrong about how serious this is.

Lots of talk and restrictions until he feels ready for a major spanking for a major crime.

Y.

P.S.  Jack’s right about his shock that he did not ask about getting the book.  Reading is encouraged.

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Kat

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Y Lee Coyote wrote:P.S.  Jack’s right about his shock that he did not ask about getting the book.  Reading is encouraged.

I hesitate to read too much into the scenario, but in real life, I'd suspect he's acting out because of some sort of resentment about the earlier spanking. At the very least, something is going on beyond the mere gratification of taking something he can't pay for.

Kat

Jack

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Kat wrote:
Y Lee Coyote wrote:P.S.  Jack’s right about his shock that he did not ask about getting the book.  Reading is encouraged.

I hesitate to read too much into the scenario, but in real life, I'd suspect he's acting out because of some sort of resentment about the earlier spanking. At the very least, something is going on beyond the mere gratification of taking something he can't pay for.

Kat

I can see that, but I was seeing it more as impulse control, which would explain both problems, and seems to be pretty common around that age. Without actually knowing the boy, it could be either or something else entirely.


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Peter_Z

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Sure he has to get another spanking and in this case a severe one.

But think need to reconsider my education methods too. Two spankings on one day may happend but should be a very very rare case.

David M. Katz

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"I'm got going to spank you, Tony; I'm going to switch you." Twisted Evil


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db105

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I need to have a serious talk with him to explain the importance of not stealing. Then I'll give him another spanking, assuming that his bottom is not marked, which hopefully it shouldn't be.

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squarecutter

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big trouble is it was 2 very different sorts of offence. Tony cannot simply blow off what was an act of theft. I have to take the view that the chore spanking must not have been that bad if he was prepared to risk his rear end a second time though I think I wont be switching . We need to talk through the behaviour and the attitude not crush it. A paddling and 3 day home confinement for me. He no longer has the freedom of the mall. Oh and some chores and the mother of all lectures about just what a big deal stealing is

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